05 October 2026

🎥 13'07": CAWG should be the home for creators and creator identity in the Content Credentials ecosystem: who is claiming credit or a role in producing a C2PA asset, and what stable facts about that act of creation can be stated in the manifest. Rights, licensing, and consent change over time and vary by region and contract, so CAWG will provide a standard way to link to authoritative external sources (such as those run by DDEX) instead of expressing that data in the manifest. This deprioritizes a few topics discussed previously.

🎥 15'26": Matthew and Jenny explained the music industry’s view: the data is dynamic (a media asset can have up to seven rights holders, updated as often as weekly), and creators may assert rights they don’t actually hold. In chat, Brad suggested adding certification and verification status to the mutable-data category, with the external link carrying a freshness expectation as well as a location.

🎥 17'59": CAWG will define the structure and extension points; each industry self-organizes and writes its own profile (vocabularies, how membership is recognized, what external data to expect).

🎥 19'04": Asked about agentic systems, Eric said a software tool is a claim generator named under C2PA, and the person or organization operating it is a named actor in CAWG; he has not yet seen that model break down. Scott said agentic is on the table as an extension of identity relationships, though less mature than the three identity types the Trust Task Force started with (organization, individual, and sponsor-validated). Michael offered an AI dubbing and translation use case. Scott said who is making a claim is in scope, while whether they have the right to make it is for industry to decide.

🎥 23'31": Andy said motion pictures already depend on the SMPTE registry and urged speed, since studio pipelines assume identity and consent infrastructure exists. Scott said CAWG will ask SMPTE and the studios what they need and provide the standard structure for it. Jenny offered to walk the group through recent ISNI and DDEX work on parties and AI use cases.

ACTION: Jenny to present the ISNI/DDEX party and AI use-case scenarios at a future meeting and relate them to CAWG’s work.

🎥 27'45": The proposal is for CAWG to become an independent, initially unfunded Joint Development Foundation project under the Linux Foundation, separate from C2PA (similar to how C2PA is organized). Eric said that, barring major objections, he and Scott will start talks with Grace, Juan, and the DIF steering committee about leaving DIF, with thanks for DIF’s hosting over the past year and a half. No objections were voiced.

🎥 29'36": Grace said it is legitimate for industries to make this decision, but unusual for the discussion to take place outside DIF’s IPR agreement and open only to a select few. She invited anyone uncomfortable objecting in this group to contact her or Juan privately. Eric also welcomed feedback on the decision and how it was made.

🎥 30'57": Eric described two layers: CAWG sets the top-level framework for identity verification and credential issuance, while industry bodies (for example, IPTC for news publishers) decide who is credentialed in their industry. CAWG will define how such bodies are recognized and what data they must provide. Scott said this works because CAWG left industry-specific governance to industry, and industry accepted that. Drummond said this is the two-layer model of a governance framework of governance frameworks, as in the Trust Over IP metamodel. Matthew stressed the need for education so industries understand the structure; Scott said the CAI could help. Eric compared the approach to the JDF’s own pre-built recipe for forming an organization: CAWG should give industries a form to fill in.

🎥 39'56": The committee should stay small. The charter will set participation expectations, term limits, rotation, and removal for non-participation, with diversity across industries, organization sizes, geographies, and organization types, and a mix of creators and technology companies. A couple of industries were flagged for extra attention. Scott said seat holders must represent a broader swath of viewpoints and do the work, not only speak for their own company. Drummond said in chat that stakeholder-group representation should be the top goal. Matthew suggested a seat focused on decentralized identity; Eric agreed and said CAWG should seek liaison relationships with DIF and Trust Over IP.

🎥 46'44": There is a strong current of opinion that "CAWG" is a poor name. A small group will bring back cleared options before any documents are signed; anyone with naming experience should contact Scott or Eric. Scott said "working group" no longer fits, "creator" and "attribution" matter, the name should extend beyond creative industries, and it should reflect a B2B mission. In chat, Bill suggested keeping the CAWG acronym (for example, "Credential Attestation & Web Governance"), and Jenny suggested "Authenticity Network for Digital Identity."

🎥 49'17": Eric did not read through the timeline; the agenda lists charters going to Linux Foundation staff on 16 October, a unified CAWG 2.0 draft circulating on 30 October, the new technical working group reviewing CAWG 2.0 in mid-to-late November, a public announcement in late November, and CAWG operating as an independent project by mid-December. He asked for help with naming and for feedback on the charter and scope, sent to him, Grace, or Juan.

🎥 50'03": On the relationship to C2PA, Scott said CAWG is dependent on C2PA but wants to be separate and aligned; the C2PA chair and vice chair supported alignment without complete merging. Eric said C2PA leadership has been supportive.

🎥 51'24": Matthew suggested a wiki for name submissions and asked that any rename consider CAWG-specific error codes and labels. Eric said he will resist renaming assertion labels or error codes, since renaming the training and data mining assertion earlier made it hard to know what to read and write. Andy argued for a professional brainstorm over a wiki.

In chat, Brad asked whether the call for patent exclusions will state the controlling deadline and the specifications covered, and where it will be published. This was not answered in the meeting.

ACTION: Eric and Scott to begin conversations with the DIF steering committee about CAWG becoming an independent organization.

ACTION: Anyone with naming experience to contact Scott or Eric; anyone with charter or scope feedback to contact Eric, Grace, or Juan.